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Dustin

Mary,

Excellent entry. You hit every nail on the proverbial head.

Mary Martin, Ph.D.

Ah, I just live for the days when people like me.

:)

Wanna write that op-ed? Might Lee want to? I'm going to write a letter, but who cares about me.

Eric

Well, I care about you, but I see your point. I'd love to write this thing, but not enough juice here, either... Yet.

Dustin

We did send a letter-to-the-editor.

Mary Martin, Ph.D.

Fabulous, Dustin! I'm sure it kicks my letter's ass.
And thanks, Eric.

:)

Dave Shishkoff

Cool beans, glad some people are paying attention, tho i would want to highlight:

"The HSUS doesn't even consider itself an animal rights organization."

As an 'organization', no. However, if you ask their staff individually, many or most will assert that what they're doing is 'animal rights'...and they (the group) typically doesn't mind being described as AR. Has anyone seen HSUS clarify this, ie "Sorry, we're not an animal rights organization, we're actually an animal husbandry organization."?

The same is here in Canada, the Vancouver Humane Society, one of the biggist and more active 'animal advocacy' groups here, happily describes themselves as AR when asked, when they are so clearly not. Their big campaign:

http://www.chickenout.ca

Simply awful stuff. But they *insist* this is AR and abolition. And sadly, most other advocacy groups here will agree. Myself, i'm viewed as a 'divisionist' for questioning any of this. So unfortunate.

Mary Martin

Dave,

I don't understand why they (HSUS) fail to correct the media when they are called animal rights? The individuals, regardless of personal belief, when speaking for the organization, are supposed to be on message with the mission (welfare). They're being part of the problem that I blame on the media, unfairly. How's some reporter who eats the Standard American Diet and isn't involved in this personally supposed to know that there's a major difference between welfare and rights if the national organizations don't tell him/her?

Divisionist. I like it.

Mary Martin

That chickenout site certainly isn't going to make any distinctions anytime soon.

Pei-Cen

Just wanted to say thank you for writing this and taking action!

Gary

I'm with you on being fed up with "they believe that...," as if rejecting torture of animals was merely an opinion equivalent to accepting it. Like you say, give people the facts about what goes on in slaughterhouses and most farms - and during transport - and stop the marginalizing, belittling "believers" language.

If people pay more for meat when they believe the animals are better cared for, it's not all bleak. For one, it indicates that people take animals' interests into consideration. Not enough, to be sure. But in a way that was almost non-existent as little as ten years ago. Secondly, higher prices tend to result in fewer purchases. Especially as alternatives to meat become more widely available and higher in quality - so let's take advantage of this situation. (I believe HSUS is going to step up their efforts in this area.) Third and perhaps most important, now that people are showing some concern for animals' interests, and we have their ear, so to speak, we can show them that they're being duped by "humane ranches."

True, people outside AR may describe HSUS as an AR organization. That's not entirely a bad thing. First, it mainstreams the phrase. Secondly, the public may sense that HSUS is not going to stop at cage-free.

To respond to Dave's comment... I can underdstand the point of view that HSUS is not an AR organization. No problem there. But I don't think it's fair to call them an "animal husbandry organization," as though they were just another animal agriculture concern trying to, say, increase yield. Though many activists don't think HSUS goes far enough, which I understand, clearly where they're coming from is concern for animals and rejection of cruelty, even if one may disagree with their tactics. The people running the farm animal portion of HSUS are long-time vegans who would like to see animal agriculture end. The "divisionist" charge comes from slurs like "animal husbandry organization," not from questioning strategy or championing alternative ways to go about things. Debate is healthy but let us make some efforts not to negatively mischaracterize those with with whom we disagree.

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