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Elaine Vigneault

I like most of your criticisms and I think you're on point with this article, specifically, "Mocking [...] is not journalism."

However, I have one minor issue. You wrote:
"Would he have felt the same way if the animals were dogs?"
The trouble is, many people really don't feel a special connection to dogs. And even some people who do feel especially fond of dogs don't always disagree with their treatment as fur or food animals in other cultures.

I see you often make this statement "what if they were dogs?" and I don't think that really expresses your thoughts about animals. I think it's an analogy that works in your mind, because you care deeply for dogs, but doesn't work in the minds of many other people.

Besides, look what our culture does to dogs! Puppy mills, greyhound races, sled races, killing in shelters, tail docking, dogfights...

The comparison simply doesn't work. Instead of saying "what if they were dogs?" maybe you should say "what if they were human children?" or just don't use an analogy at all.

*(I only say this because I see you often make this dog analogy. If you made it less often, I wouldn't even have noticed.)

Mary Martin

Actually, Elaine, I mention dogs because they're supposed to be "man's best friend."

Believe it or not, I've always been a cat person. Just don't tell Violet or Charles. Dogs come up a lot because they're used more than cats (racing, fighting, mushing) in the US. Furthermore, there is that segment of the US population that hates cats and has created bumper stickers, t-shirts and websites around the concept of hating cats. I don't see that with dogs so they're a safer reference.

I don't go directly to human children because I don't think most people can deal with that. But they can be eased in that direction with an animal that our culture has a particular affinity for--allegedly.

Don't I get any points for: "And dare I say the same scenario occurred with humans not that long ago?"

Cláudio Godoy

Talking about heifers, take a look at http://www.heifer.org/

Mary Martin

Hi Claudio!
I was sort of hoping they'd gone out of business (it IS a business, make no mistake). I ranted about Heifer several times since I started blogging. The worst was probably on December 20, 2006 in "On Heifer Int'l and People Who Aren't Thinking" at: http://www.animalperson.net/animal_person/2006/12/on_heifer_intl_.html

I just reread it and was thinking: I can be SO obnoxious!

Roger Yates

Mary, I refuse to believe you could be as obnoxious as this:-

"It may seem hard to believe that peace could really take root one cow at a time. Yet we’ve seen time and again that people with something to live for, they have nothing they want to die for. Since receiving a cow Agnes has milk to feed her children, and with money from the sale of surplus milk she can tend to her family’s needs: food, medicine, clothing and more.

"What a glorious sight it will be to see Hutu and Tutsi women gathering together at the “Passing on the Gift” ceremony. Old resentments may not all be forgotten, but they are slowly being forgiven. Here and there you hear the word “mahoro” — peace — that it seemed no one had used for years, now being spoken with genuine hope.

"In a land with so much poverty, and thousands of war orphans, just imagine the impact of 1,000 or 10,000 cows! There just seems to be no limit to the amount of good we can do, as long as we can count on good friends like you."

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