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April 12, 2008

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Alex

The Washington Post piece on "LD 50" testing is a remarkable example of the inherent immorality this practice. I wonder if those non-vegans reading the article considered for even a moment the absurdity of forcing death by poisoning onto another sentient being for the end of mere vanity? I wrote a post about this today...

Joseph

"If you try grass-fed, locally, humanely raised meat, it's not only significantly better for your health, it's better for the animal."

It's funny how people believe that killing an animal and consuming its flesh is better than not breeding the animal at all. *sigh*

Judy Stone

I think the meat-boosters are whistling in the dark. The fur industry keeps announcing that fur is back, even as fur-store numbers decline. The fur industry has even claimed to be green in P.R. ads. It's all swan songs, or death rattles. Video on the internet deserves the credit.

Even among my daughter's age group (early 40s), many people are giving up meat. They do it for their health (especially their husbands'), for the environment, because it's cruel, and for the sake of their children's future health and eating habits. Among my grandson's age group (15 years old) there are several boys on his football team who are vegetarians, and when the coach sends out for pizza and orders a vegetarian one too, no one bats an eye. My friends are cutting back with the stated purpose of being vegetarian as soon as they are able. Some see that logic requires veganism.

What is unsustainable can't be sustained. The elephant in the green room is population. At last, articles on the unsustainability of population growth are starting the be a feature in the mainstream media. It's either less meat or less sex. Which will humans choose?

Susan C.

In your last bullet point you quote Gold, who, because of the way his words are put together, almost sounds as if he is saying, "Vegetarianism used to be popular, but the tide is turning. Eating "humane" meat is better for your health, for the animals, and for the environment, than vegetarianism." Now, I realize this is a misreading, but it seems to me a revealing and useful one.

There is also an odd sexual undertone to the whole passage. The article mentions diners grabbing buns; people reaching and grabbing waiters and getting as much as they want, shameless meat lovers, bison tongue, bull's penis, 31 meats in 31 days... Oh, and the picture of the guy with an entire pig's body slung across his own? So sexy. What was that about a "nose-to-tail approach"?

This makes me think that many vegetarians are closet-carnivores coming out of hiding, now that animal welfare is condoning "humane" treatment of non-human animals. Vegan animal rights would never fall for such fluff.

Bea Elliott

I found the article amusing in that there was an under-tone of "if we say it's so, it is"..... If anything I'm meeting more vegans/vegetarians than ever before - Thirty years ago I was quite alone in my beliefs and my plant based diet - now, seems like many have either changed their eating habits or are seriously considering it.

Veganism has so many valid points - I think it's beginning to shake the under pinnings of the carnivore culture. Awareness and information will continue to disclose it's health & environmental impacts. And all but the resisting neanderthals recognize that killing animals for "food" is not 21st century and not "PC". At least in their hearts I think they know it -it's a matter of (short) time before they fully awaken to these truths.

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