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May 16, 2009

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Lui

Wow. "Vegan" or not, that Matt and Nat bag is ridiculously expensive. In my opinion, putting the label "vegan" on something so pricey only reinforces the popularly held idea that veganism is something for upper middle class privileged people. I guess that's a price you pay to "go mainstream". Ugh.

Mary Martin

"Expensive" is relative, though I certainly understand what you're saying. The Jane Marvel bags are very affordable. And English Retreads are, as well (and handmade in Boulder!). Remember the target market for Bloomingdale's, too. The Matt & Nat products I have were inexpensive and I bought them online and at Mooshoes. I'd bet that this line was made specifically to appeal to a particular clientele, at an intentional price point. For some people, the more expensive something is, the more desirable it is.

Nick

"...not all of us think we're freaks..."

I'm not sure if you were referring to Bob and Jenna of Vegan Freak Radio, but I think the point is that until veganism becomes mainstream, we're freaks whether we like it or not.

Mary Martin

Nick,
I was actually thinking about an article I was directed to on Twitter that never mentioned Vegan Freak Radio. That's not really on my radar.

And I disagree that we're all freaks whether we like it or not, but I suppose that depends on your definition of "freak." I don't think that if you don't have mainstream beliefs you are a "freak." But that's me.

Bea Elliott

If a "freak" is one who is markedly unusual... I've yet to find anyone that is "normal". I think we all *pass* to different degrees; or not. And it's sad that so many struggle to "fit in" to whatever standards they think everyone is judging them by.

That said, the majority of other "un-normal" people choose an antiquated view towards ethics and animals as their standard. How unsocial and *weird* to not grill/consume dead animal parts - right? But this makes vegans atypical. I think shows like The Goodes is going to exaggerate every possible extreme... clearly it's a defense mechanism; art imitating life. I don't think this Goode vegan family will have many "animal rights" issues. It's mostly going to be environmental ones. This will keep it light, entertaining and non-threatening. But it will chip another layer away... even if through laugher.

And chic fashionable ladies will always want an expensive status purse... It will either be Coach, Dooney or another - But if the other can be vegan, and fill that niche - that's fine too. There's still the others of us left to tout the many economic virtues of a diet based in thrifty beans instead of priceless flesh.

Ridicule. Violent opposition. Acceptance. Oh happy day!

Andrew

Not sure if you realise this but that Vegan 101 video was actually written and produced by a vegan. Joanne Rose is her name. Not sure if that video is doing veganism a service or not.

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