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June 08, 2009

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Tracy

I'm sorry I read the first part of the series and am glad I didn't read the rest. I had no idea the writer was a former animal experimenter. He's only identified as a senior editor at Slate in his bio in the first installment. How annoying!

Bea Elliott

My head hurts with all the justifying, denial, paraphrasing, rewording and unclaimed guilt D. Engber reveals. It's both amusing and appalling to know what lengths he and his ilk go through to avoid responsiblity for their brutal (and unnecessary) acts. If there ever was to be justice for these sorts of crimes - I'm quite certain he would not compromise the full meaning of "mercy".

Oren

Excellent blog post. But I'd go much easier on Engber, because he's a powerful voice that speaks to a different audience.

To begin with, I think we agree the series is extraordinary. You're right that the most important part is Part V, Me and My Monkey. It does show who Engber really is, and it explains how he has begun to recognize the implications of the animal experimentation (torture) he had participated in. He's definitely conflicted, and he hasn't arrived at the place you'd like him to. But a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

He doesn't agree with everything you believe, but he agrees with enough to understand your message. That's very rare for somebody coming from his world and his background. As a result, he can give an eyewitness view from inside the lab that nobody else can. It helps that he's a fantastic writer.

When he writes about cutting a dog open, he's not trying to give a "how to" explanation; he's giving us a peek into the mindset of the scientists who perform such actions.

Calling him "the vivisectionist Daniel Engber" does not help because it shuts down dialogue. This piece succeeds in opening eyes and raising consciousness, and it will find it's audience. The truth will make itself known.

Glad I found your blog.

Olivia

The husband-and-wife, doctor-and-veterinarian team, C. Ray and Jean Swingle Greek, who wrote Sacred Cows and Golden Geese, maintain that few to no significant advances in medicine came from animal experimentation and that, if anything, it prevented progress.

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