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April 06, 2010

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Mr. Peabody

I’m not sure in what sense Angier is using the term “highly sensitive," but I think that what I am about to write still applies. Since learning in depth about Highly Sensitive People (HSPs, as defined by Elaine Aron), I have noticed that other animals also have distinct HSP traits. But that is not surprising at all. I agree that it is very strange that so many humans are not aware of the fact that other animals have distinct personalities and traits just as humans do…and yes, they also can be sensitive in a variety of ways. The lovely thing about nonhumans - both free-living and “domestic” - is that they more often just accept their own traits/personalities without apologies, whereas a vast number of humans tend to beat themselves up excessively for not “fitting in” (the pig squeals and lets others know that what is happening to her is not okay with her, while the human often just suppresses her anguish in order to fit in). Hence all the drugs that humans (particularly in the U.S.) take to force/repress themselves (i.e., their personalities and resultant behavior) to fit the model of what is considered socially “normal.” That is one of the ways in which we humans may actually be exceptional. That is not to say that other animals do not have their own culture or complex social rules (many do), and on occasion some animals in certain species find themselves ostracized from social groups for their differing behavior. But today there seems to be an epidemic of humans who take mood drugs in order to alter their inherent traits or natural behavior. A few months ago I read an article (and I forget who wrote it…Chris Hedges maybe?) that touched on the notion that the drug industry is preying on millions of people who have reacted in a perfectly normal and understandable way to a culture that sucks the life out of them (why would depression, sadness, anxiety, extreme anger, etc. *not* be the expected reactions/behavior to what is being done to them?).

Oikeios

Is this the same Natalie Angier who rocked our world with "Sorry, Vegans: Brussels Sprouts Like to Live, Too" in the NYTimes? Perhaps this latest article is her attempt to cover-up that previous embarrassment, notwithstanding the anthropocentric prejudices that continue to plague her writing.

Caitlin Rose


Wow, that last sentence is a puzzler. Is she thanking the pig for her thin skin, which allows her to appreciate Bach (as if her skin was inherited from the pig?) Or is she expressing gratitude that she's a human being who can appreciate Bach and not a pig (who apparently squeals without actually feeling)?

This was my favorite duh moment, when she defined animal behavior research as "the effort to understand why individual members of the same species can be so mulishly themselves, and so unlike one another on a wide variety of behavioral measures."

Yeah, let's take millions of dollars and thousands of man hours to find out why *individuals* insist on acting like them*selves*.

Beaelliott

On descriptions that begin with "even" animals... They bother me as much as hearing that a violated person was treated "like an animal". Both stem from the (arrogant) notion that there's nothing of less value than "even" animals.

And about animal personalities, I'm no expert here, but having observed on a few occasions, the introduction of a new member into a flock of chickens... I can say the diverse dynamics are obvious. The tendencies of a more dominant hen might be usurped - She's then more apt to socialize with a group she once "bullied". Oddly those in that group do make her pay her way... They may snub her for days until she's forgiven. Likewise a more reserved hen might pal up with the new "queen" and consequently get to share the best spot on the roost. Some enjoy each others company and "gossip" together, while there are those who are loners and don't care to mingle at all.

All of these traits are echoed into our "complex" human condition. How anyone can deny it, or give these (animal) structures any less significance than our own is just (deliberately?) narrow minded.

"What's the word for fear that human animals aren't all that much different from nonhuman animals and humans' continuous attempts to not recognize the obvious?" I wish I knew... Or better still, I wish I knew how to change it. :(

Susan C.

"What's the word for fear that human animals aren't all that much different from nonhuman animals and humans' continuous attempts to not recognize the obvious?"

Speciesism.

OK OK, speciesism is the result of that fear, not the fear itself. But it sounded good.

"It isn't that we set out looking for humanlike traits in animals and hope to find some. Rather, we set out to understand what animals are like, and use the language and concepts that come closest to describing what we see" (Wild Justice, 41).

I think this language comes closest to describing such traits because they are the same traits as in humans; it's just that we recognized them first in ourselves, and only belatedly in other species. (of course this is not universal; some traits are probably uniquely human, just not nearly as many as people used to think).

And regarding Bea's comment about the phrase "like an animal" being applied to a violated individual; what I hate worse is having it applied to the violator!

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